June 28, 2004

Big Fat Liar

I saw Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 last night; I have a review up at The American Spectator online.

Posted by John Tabin at June 28, 2004 01:18 AM

[Redacted. When you resort to personal insults, you forfeit the privilege of posting anonymously. -JT]

Posted by: Anonymous at June 28, 2004 03:20 AM

You sound like a religious person denying the existence of evolution just because science has not found every bone.

What Moore is doing in F911 is looking at the bigger picture, he may have gotten some of the tiny, and nearly insignificant details wrong, but the overall impression of what is really going on in your country is clear. I saw Hitchens interview on Dennis Millar before I saw F911 last night, and I can say that Hitchean lied. I can even quote his lie.

June 28/04 Hitchens said on Dennis Millar that Iraq had never threatened a US life, when in fact the movie clearly states that 'Iraq never Killed a single US citizen'. The actual movie says nothing about Iraq's threatening the US, which Hitchens went on to use as a contradiction in the movie when GWB says "Oh ya and he tried to kill my dad". I went to the movie looking for that exact quote spouted by Hitchens, and to my shock it was not in the movie at all!

Hitchens Lied. For what reason I do not know, but its amazing to me that someone as smart as him would go on national TV and lie, knowing he is lying and knowing he'll be caught.

I'm not a huge Michael Moore fan but I saw F911 with eyes open, after reading all the movie reviews and hate reviews like the ones you and Hitchens ascribe to, and I have to say that I was not impressed with your arguments. You spend all your time IGNORING the big stuff in the movie and you try and draw attention to the few minor facts thats are slightly off from what you profess to be true. Even if the stuff you claim to be wrong in the movie is wrong, it does not change the picture painted very much. I am not impressed with your argument, you totally failed to contradict the large issues in the movie and you failed to sway me from the feeling that something huge and awful is going on in your country.

Anyone who would support Bush at this point is like a religious person who see's the virgin mary in a tree stump, and nothing on earth can convince you otherwise.

Posted by: Cam at June 29, 2004 11:08 AM

Talk about religious certitude. What Hitchens said was absolutely correct. It's in the voiceover at the beginning of the section on Iraq.

I won't waste time with the rest of your "argument"-- if you take Michael Moore seriously, you're beyond help.

Posted by: John Tabin at June 29, 2004 11:20 AM


It is interesting how this Michael Moore absurd film gets everyone's blood boiling. A Republican friend of mine, Mel nadler, believes that almost everyone who watches the film is a committed Democrat. From what I can see I cannot see it changing many minds.

Irving Kristol said that it is almost impossible to change people who are strongly committed to either side through polemic. The people who are changed are those teetering. It is hard to believe that a dishonest and unreliable filmmaker like Moore could change many minds.


Posted by: lee tabin at June 29, 2004 02:13 PM

In response to Cam,

There are few with greater religious certitide on less credible evidence than the scientific bigot. I suppose that explains why you are willing to swallow Moore`s whale of a fish story. You talk about nitpicking details-the picture is IN the details, Cam. Moore creates his entire thesis with a mountain of false data, cheap theatrical tricks, bald ad-hominem accusations, and relies on smoke and mirrors. Talk about ``blinding people with science``! Anyone who would fall for this is indeed, as Mr. Tabin pointed out, beyond help.

Posted by: Tim Birdnow at July 1, 2004 02:38 PM