January 23, 2006

Tory Story

I look at the Conservatives' imminent victory up north in today's AmSpec column.

UPDATE: For some reason 9/11 conspiracy theories have infested the comments. This is no different than Holocaust denial, and I've cleaned it out of the thread. If you want to spew that poison, go to someone else's website. Here's the Popular Mechanics feature that debunks all the most popular theories. The stuff I've expunged is covered under "No Stand-Down Order" and "Intercepts Not Routine."

Posted by John Tabin at January 23, 2006 12:57 AM
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Posted by: Jason at January 23, 2006 04:11 PM

jason,
you are truly unhinged. Are you suggesting that 9/11 somehow was effected by the Bush administration? That is like saying the Russian revolution was financed by the "Combined Jewish Appeal."
If the war were about oil I would think we would attack Mexico, Canada, and Venuezuela. What gets me about people like you living in Western democracies is that you can spew all you want while both your safety and standard of living is dependent on your neighbor to the south. Canada should be about richest nation on earth but because of your welfare state your standard of living isnt where it could be.

What is all this hostility to Bush about anyway? he spends like a liberal.

Idiots like you, Jason, in aggregate, do make us more vulnerable. I'll just bet you don't like Guantanamo either.

Jim

Posted by: Jim at January 23, 2006 05:02 PM

John,
I think your comment on Canadian Anti-American sentiment not being deep or ingrained is apt. Trade issues such as softwood lumber, fishing treaties and other disputes do more to create tensions than blanket dislike for Bush, American people, or even the war on Iraq. I think depending on which part of Canada you reside in you might identify more closely with American Republican policies and ideologies than others. After all much of our west was settled by Americans and trade corridors have always run North South as opposed to East West. But ultimately the focus of our election was not on Canadian-American relations, but on issues that were pertinent to how we define our quality of life and standard of living.

Canadians deliberately gave Harper a minority government. They wanted to hold a complacent, arrogant Liberal party accountable for the corruption and mismanagement under Chretien without giving the Conservatives the opportunity to easily implement any of the Social policies that average Canadians fear. Harpers reluctance to make clear statements on a woman's right to choose, gay marriage, and his personal views on family in the last few days may have triggered a strong reaction particularly in urban female voters. Canada's 3 largest cities sent a clear message rejecting the Conservative agenda.

I don't know that Martin has been particularly Anti-American in his policies or reactions over the length of his tenure in our parliament. Although he would not send Canadian troops to Iraq (in accordance with the wishes of most Canadians), he did offer support in terms of training Iraqi troops outside of Iraq, as well as sending additional troops to Afghanistan to free up the American soldiers. Fiscally Martin as a finance minister was much more closely aligned with true Republican ideals than perhaps anyone else has been in the previous 50 years. I think most people recognized that Martin's blustering over American reluctance to ratify Kyoto was more to cover our own shameful record, and to pander to voters, than presenting any real case against them. Unfortunately your ambassador decided to slap our hands for talking back rather than slaying Martin on the real issues of Kyoto.

When I read through American coverage of our election issues I often wonder who they are talking about. The slant is of course on issues that are pertinent to your interests, Oil Sands, Water, Trade, and not on the issues that might be contentious within our context. Personally I am just thrilled to see Canadian politics actually getting covered, even if only incrementally and perhaps differently than we would like, in your media. It can only foster greater understanding between us.

Anne


Posted by: Anne at January 24, 2006 04:16 AM

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Posted by: Jason at January 24, 2006 11:05 AM

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Posted by: TheCap`n at January 24, 2006 01:18 PM

Deleting posts now, Jimbo ? That's cool, dude. The truth is a hard pill to swallow sometimes.

Posted by: TheCap`n at January 25, 2006 12:46 AM

"Jimbo" hasn't deleted your post. I have. And you're the one who's refusing to swallow the truth. I don't blame you: It's scary to know that there are maniacs out there who want to destroy you and everything in the world that you care about. It's much more comforting to think that Americans are being manipulated by a contrived threat. But it's a lie.

Posted by: John Tabin at January 25, 2006 03:17 AM

John,
I can see why you deleted the "conspiracy" posts, but I always wonder if actually seeing how idiotic these people are does help the rational side of the war on terror.

love that belefonte and cindy sheehan. i think it is incredible that belefonte gets interviewed on TV. It would be more sensible to interview my baby granddaughter.

The liberals have really misjudged the electorate by taking extreme positions. There is much to criticize Bush about particularly if they could come up with some ideas of their own.
But their "Bush lied" stuff rings hollow. LYING to attack a political opponent does not seem very productive to me.

Jimbo

Posted by: jim at January 25, 2006 08:50 AM

I agree with Jim; it is sometimes wise to let a fool show himself. I would like to have laughed at some of those comments!

Still, I see your point, John.

Oh, and your Amspec piece was very good!

Posted by: Tim Birdnow at January 25, 2006 07:37 PM