January 25, 2006

Podcast #2: Immigration

In this edition, I'm joined by W. James Antle III of The American Conservative, and we hash out immigration policy and politics. The conversation runs 23 minutes, 45 seconds.

Download the mp3 here. (problems with it have been fixed)

Links mentioned in the podcast:

My AmSpec column on Jim Gilchrist, the Minutemen, and distinctions between legal and illegal immigration

Jim's Enter Stage Right column: "Most of the problems commonly associated with out-of-control immigration stem not from the immigrants' illegality... but their sheer numbers."

John Judis's New Republic cover-story (subscription required)

John Fonte's critique of Tamar Jacoby

Jesse James DeConto's Reason cover-story

Posted by John Tabin at January 25, 2006 11:49 PM
Comments

If immigration of the millions of Mexicans is made legal, they wouldn't be sneaking across. Anyone who then tried to do so would stick out like a sore thumb -- as would drug-smugglers and the like.

So, legalizing the illegals and increasing the immgration quota, particularly for Mexicans is actually an essential part of the solution to a safer border.

Posted by: Tired Immigrant at January 26, 2006 07:29 AM

1. We tried the "legalize the illegals" approach in 1986, when we offered amnesty to illegal aliens who could prove they had been living in the United States before 1982. It did not reduce subsequent illegal immigration. Politics isn't the only reason blanket amnesty isn't being suggested now.

2. A Pew Hispanic Center poll found that 40 percent of Mexican adults would move to the United States if they had the means to do so. Half said they would do so if there was a guest-worker program. Even granting that only a fraction of these numbers would actually immigrate, it is not feasible to increase the annual quotas enough to meet this demand.

Posted by: W. James Antle III at January 26, 2006 10:48 AM

I enjoyed the podcast, John. You sound like a more conservative NPR, a service we could use.

In South Florida, the large Cuban population is eager to assimilate, although there are some who have not-they mainly seem to live in Little Havana.

I talk almost entirely to service people and small business owners and they strongly believe that not learning English and not assimilating is foolish. The Cubans are enormously productive people, as are the south Americans who settle here.

There are however, a significant amount of illegal immigrants from South America.

By the way, the Podcast at least on my computer, seemed to cut off about a minute before it should have.

Posted by: jim at January 26, 2006 01:00 PM

The problem with the file has been fixed; you should get the whole thing if you download it again.

Posted by: John Tabin at January 28, 2006 09:38 AM

The second comment raises very good points, and perhaps the best way to look at illegal immigrants is as making up an entirely separate type of market than regular immigrants and citizens.

Some employers want workers who don't know their rights, can be safely abused, who don't have the same paperwork requirements as legal workers, etc. etc. Something similar applies to a lesser extent when those illegal aliens are consumers.

So, while increasing the number of legal immigrants might help to a certain extent, some employers and businesses will always prefer illegal aliens for the reasons stated above.

To stop illegal immigration you need to go to the root cause: politicians who refuse to enforce the law. They do that for various reasons including because they receive donations from companies that profit of illegal immigration. Some are in the sway of far-left racial groups. And, the media allows all of this to happen for various reasons.

Posted by: Immigration Reform at January 29, 2006 02:50 PM

THE DECLINE AND FALL OF AMERICA

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty123.htm

Immigration, legal and illegal is destroying America. We are long overdue to halt the madness and recover America.

Posted by: Deborah at January 30, 2006 12:56 PM